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16 August 2011 @ 10:04 pm
Conversations with Dale  
This month's Year and a Day class is on grounding, centering, and shielding. I've been reading articles on different techniques and doing meditations (not frequently enough) to see which if any of the elements I connect to.

Starting tomorrow, I have a new exercise: not just finding the connections, but trying to plug into them and complete a circuit. I am a bit wary of trying this one on my own, so I asked Dale to help.

Me: (explains new exercise) Would you be willing to sit with me and monitor, and also tell me if you perceive anything?

Dale: Sure.

Me: I've already told Malachite I'm nervous about this, both about failing and about it working and me getting stuck.

Dale: It's a meditation technique, it probably won't work the first time.

Me: Don't be so sure.

Dale: Oh?

Me: I got some fairly strong connections the first time I tried the "which do I connect to". I feel like I'm skewing the results, but Malachite has already made it very clear that THAT'S WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, that if it works because I want it to, it still works.

Dale: That's true. Of course (takes my hand and turns it palm up) you could manifest Elemental Fire right there and your first reaction would be to look around and demand to know where the projector was.

Me: Why did you pick that element?

Dale: Oh, really?

Me: Well, yeah. And earth. Which makes no sense. They're opposites.

Dale: You seem to have techno-mage tendencies.

Me: And . . . electricity is fire.

Dale: And what's silicon?

Me: I am so screwed.

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It has just been pointed out to me that the opposite of fire is water, not earth. I am an idiot.
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aedifica: Religious studiesaedifica on August 17th, 2011 05:08 pm (UTC)
In the traditions I'm most familiar with, fire *is* opposite earth. If it isn't in your tradition, maybe you were thinking of another tradition?
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on August 17th, 2011 05:35 pm (UTC)
I suspect I was thinking of something in fiction, something like "earth smothers fire, so they're opposites".

(Searching, searching)

Okay, according to Wikipedia, Hellenic had fire/water, earth/air.

On the other hand, an Answers.com article has Earth = North, Air = East, Fire = South, Water = West (for northern hemisphere), which would put Earth opposite Fire.

Now I'm confused.
aedifica: Religious studiesaedifica on August 17th, 2011 10:28 pm (UTC)
The Air-East, Fire-South, Water-West, Earth-North is what my tradition uses. It makes the most intuitive sense for people on the west coast of their landmass, which I am not... :-)

What are you finding confusing?
Angela di Tenebreditenebre on August 18th, 2011 05:52 am (UTC)
This is the connection of cardinal points and elements we use in our fire circles, so when Janet said fire and earth were opposites, it certainly made sense to me.
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on August 18th, 2011 02:07 pm (UTC)
I need to ask my mentor whether Greenhaven uses a different correspondence than Air-East, Fire-South, Water-West, Earth-North, or if the cardinal point correspondences do not imply "opposing" elements.