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06 October 2010 @ 10:12 pm
I just finished the eARC of _Cyroburn_  
Bujold, you BASTARD.
 
 
Adrian Turtleadrian_turtle on October 7th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
Thank you for helping unsex that insult.
Janet Miles, CAP-OM: hairjanetmiles on October 7th, 2010 02:44 pm (UTC)
You're welcome?

I'm truly sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I'm in a depressed state right now and I can't tell if that was sincere or sarcastic. The intellect side of the brain advises me that you don't normally do sarcasm, but the depression is busily insisting that you were criticizing me by way of a pretended compliment.

(The depression is related to having been off my OTC meds for a week; I ran out of Vitamin D and thought that it probably didn't make as much difference as the prescription antidepressant. I was mistaken. I started taking it again earlier this week, but I haven't climbed back out of the pit yet.)
zemhitchhiker on October 7th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
no, i know what adrian_turtle is getting at - there are people who insist that "bastard" is a gendered insult, the feminine being "bitch". personally, i use it freely for either sex.
Adrian Turtleadrian_turtle on October 7th, 2010 07:56 pm (UTC)
I meant it sincerely. It's extraordinarily rare to see the modern insult "bastard" aimed at a woman. (The traditional insult is "person whose parents were not married." Mercifully, that no longer seems to be an active term of abuse.) In recent decades, "you bastard!" seems to translate as "you are a man who is stretching custom in ways I don't like!" I'm happy to see it used to mean, "you are a person who is stretching custom in ways I don't like!"

I'm sorry your depression has been so bad, and I hope you feel better soon.
Janet Miles, CAP-OM: readerjanetmiles on October 7th, 2010 08:11 pm (UTC)
I'm happy to see it used to mean, "you are a person who is stretching custom in ways I don't like!"

I generally to use it as "You are a person who has done something that has hurt someone else, and that pisses me off". I can get pretty wrapped up in good stories, such that when the author does something horrible to a character, I feel angry / sad / hurt / gutted / whatever.

I get over it a lot faster when the injured party is an imaginary character, though, and can wryly agree with jhetley that the author is doing zir job and making the story compelling.