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Daniel B. Holzman-Tweedholzman on March 12th, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC)
I can't help but notice that the metrics being used by the new school are simply ways of measuring the first order effects of the metric used by the old school. I'm uncertain how this is an improvement, unless there's a bunch of people out there with lots of ready cash but don't have enough food, access to health care, etc.
Bitch Wolfweibchenwolf on March 13th, 2010 12:05 am (UTC)
I read the first paragraph you posted to my housemate, who had roughly the same reaction I did:
Of course that's not all there is to it.

I think we're both amazed that researchers (supposedly experts in this 'field') are only just realising there's more to it.

Then again, I quite often shake my head at researchers 'proving' something that's blindingly obvious :)
A monstrous ramblingbibliofile on March 13th, 2010 09:21 pm (UTC)
Yes, what you said.

I also understand that when researchers begin to see the obvious -- and figure out ways to examine and measure both the status quo and the effects of changes -- that can be only a good thing.
siliconshaman on March 13th, 2010 12:07 am (UTC)
Dickens said it best...
Expenses £1 6s and 3p. Income £1 6s 9p result Happiness.
Expenses £1 6s and 3p. Income £1 6s result Misery.

Although, it's not about the money, as such. It's about having the resources you need, to meet the demands in your life. Poverty is when you have more demands than resources.

Granted, most peoples primary resource, is money, because you can use that to get other resources. But a lack of those more need specific resources [transport, food, medical care]... that is also poverty.

However you measure it though, it's not just an absolute arbitrary line. It's dependent on circumstance too. One can have a £50k income...but if your expenses are £51k, you're still screwed.
fatcook: Angry-Annoyedfatcook on March 14th, 2010 02:33 am (UTC)
Poverty is a great deal more than just money. I can ask any 10 of the family specialists at my agency ( we're a non-profit) what poverty is and I will get 30 different answers. The academics are just now starting to realize that you can't quantify something this intangible. Any front-line caseworker or social service provider could have told them that 20 years ago, if they had been willing to listen.
starcat_jewelstarcat_jewel on March 15th, 2010 10:49 pm (UTC)
Beyond the obvious -- poverty is what happens when you don't have a safety cushion of any sort. Remember "for want of a nail"? If your income-to-expenses ratio is so low that you can't put anything aside, then the least little piece of bad luck can send you into an out-of-control downward financial slide. Poverty is not being able to afford anything to go wrong.