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11 March 2010 @ 04:45 pm
Wow  
Stories like this one (link to a Customers_Suck post) make me feel much less guilty about ordering "a large decaf with room for cream, please" at coffee shops.

(I have had people -- not baristas, but random people -- tell me that if all I'm getting is plain decaf, I shouldn't bother going to a coffee shop. Which is all well and good, but if I'm at the bookstore and waiting for Dale, for example, I want to get something to drink while I read the book I bought. And I like the taste of coffee. Others' mileage varies.) (These people are probably related to the woman I posted about several years ago, who gave me grief about ordering meatloaf at a restaurant because it's so easy to make at home. Yes, it is, but when I saw meatloaf on the menu, my tastebuds said "That. Now.".)
 
 
 
Fat Fred the Otter and Skippy: Comeherefatfred on March 11th, 2010 09:51 pm (UTC)

Your money, your tastebuds, your choice.
You gonna buy it for me? THEN I'll have what you say.
Sheesh.
seawaspseawasp on March 11th, 2010 09:53 pm (UTC)
"You are not authorized to view this protected entry."
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on March 11th, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
Whoops, sorry. I didn't notice that it was a locked post. Basically, woman at Starbucks demands insanely complicated drink, screams at barista when it is apparently not made to her satisfaction, demands that it be remade, screams at barista AGAIN, and is then politely taken down by former Starbucks employee in line who informs her that the barista did everything exactly as ordered, and yes, he darned well IS tall enough to see behind the counter.
xjenavivex on March 11th, 2010 10:02 pm (UTC)
grrrrr
Barbrahirah on March 11th, 2010 10:17 pm (UTC)
The whole point of eating out is not so much what you eat, but that other people make it for you!
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on March 11th, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
Precisely!
Cymru Llewescymrullewes on March 12th, 2010 03:44 am (UTC)
I thought it was so that someone else made it AND cleaned up afterwards.
gh4acws on March 11th, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
your decision
your money, your taste.

That said there are restaurant food decisions that seem not quite bright. I a chain devoted to chicken dishes if you order the pizza it is likely frozen nuked and not very good. ( I have watched it happen and the next true pizza place was less than 5 minutes away and it was not the one member of the group : it was a whole group of 4 ordering pizza in a chicken place : weird I call that [ not that it was my place to call them ] )

I like the taste of coffee too - but after 5 pm it is likely to keep me awake late - decaff or grain-based coffee substitute may be the answer. ( i've even done 'irish*'[Jack'n Barley] : add Jack Daniels and cream ( it still warms you up nicely )
Dr. Ben Mack: Prominent User of the Internetepi_lj on March 11th, 2010 10:51 pm (UTC)
Re: your decision
I figure that there are always reasons that you might not be aware of. For example, maybe they had a really great coupon for the chicken place. Or maybe they'd arranged to meet at the chicken place and sat down to eat chicken but then when they saw the pizza on the menu, they decided that they wanted pizza, and getting up and going to the pizza place didn't seem worth it. Or... maybe they *like* the pizza at the chicken place.

There's a chicken chain here (I dunno where you live, "here" is Canada for me) called Swiss Chalet. When I used to eat meat, I'd go there and get their chicken on a kaiser sandwich, and it was pretty darned good. However, one day I was there with people and wanted to have a burger, so I got their cheeseburger, and it was *amazingly* tasty. So from them on, I ordinarily ordered the cheeseburger. You wouldn't believe the grief I got for that, mostly because people supposed that at a place that specializes in chicken, the cheeseburger is "likely" not very good. Pretty much everyone I convinced to try it agreed that it was amazing and started ordering it also, but I managed to convince surprisingly few people to try it.

Even if one has had the errant item and decided that it's terrible, there's also taste to account for. Maybe the people ordering really like frozen nuked pizza, and the pizza at the chicken place is thus really good pizza *for them*.
laurareylaurarey on March 12th, 2010 03:50 pm (UTC)
Re: your decision
Swiss Chalet makes burgers? Was it a Harvey's burger?
Dr. Ben Mack: Prominent User of the Internetepi_lj on March 12th, 2010 04:01 pm (UTC)
Re: your decision
Yep. They make delicious burgers. And no, they're not Harvey's burgers, oddly enough.

They also make veggie burgers (which are also very different than Harvey's burgers).

The Swiss Chalet veggie burger is definitely much better than the Harvey's burger. The meat burgers are hard to compare because they're very different beasts.
Dr. Ben Mack: Prominent User of the Internetepi_lj on March 11th, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
Wait, why is it a problem to order food that's easy to make at restaurants? You're *at the restaurant*. It's surprisingly difficult to make meatloaf *at a restaurant* if you are not an employee. And surprisingly tedious and time-consuming to go from the restaurant to a grocery store, buy all the ingredients, go home to your kitchen, make the food, then return to the restaurant so you can eat it.
Buddha Buckblaisepascal on March 11th, 2010 10:46 pm (UTC)
Large decaf is on the menu. Meatloaf is on the menu. If they didn't want to sell it, they wouldn't have offered it.

Whether or not a large decaf with room for cream (please) from Starbucks is worth it is a different question, and perhaps you might want to feel guilty about paying so much for coffee, but you shouldn't feel guilty about it being unworthy of the store.
Dr. Ben Mack: Prominent User of the Internetepi_lj on March 11th, 2010 10:53 pm (UTC)
The way I figure it, if she likes the coffee and finds it worth the price to her, then it's worth it.

Why would someone want to feel guilty about buying something they enjoy for a price they find to be worthwhile? Aren't there enough other things in the world to think about than getting all angsty over something as ridiculous as buying yourself a beverage you like for a price that seems reasonable for it?

(Note that this isn't written from Starbucks defensiveness -- I personally don't like Starbucks. But I just don't get this position.)
Buddha Buckblaisepascal on March 12th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
I refuse to buy overpriced Starbucks coffee. Whenever I need to eat at Starbucks, I drink the overpriced Starbucks iced tea.

madshutterbug: Attitudemadshutterbug on March 11th, 2010 11:46 pm (UTC)
Somebody else already said this (pretty much) and yet, still...

Meatloaf at home, easy. *G*

Meatloaf eaten out... Even. Easier. *BG*