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06 July 2009 @ 11:29 am
And, for what it's worth  
I think the word cisgendered is a perfectly reasonable complement to the word transgendered, and I have no objection to being described as such. I also tend to describe myself as "het" or "heterosexual" rather than "straight" (except that I am very fond of my button that says "Straight but not narrow-minded") (or unless I'm borrowing Philip the Foole's terminology, "tragically bi-impaired").

Also, an essay on same. Link via epi_lj.
Annetxanne on July 6th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
I learned the word "cisgendered" very recently, and my first thought was to facepalm myself. Because really, what could be more obvious?
Violet Tigress: drowningviolet_tigress1 on July 6th, 2009 05:03 pm (UTC)
Man, I haven't heard Philip's name in awhile! Ah, memories... makes me wish I was still part of that group.
Tom the Alien Cattomtac on July 6th, 2009 05:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you for linking to the essay. I hadn't known that word. The Wikipedia entry helped me out a bit.
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on July 6th, 2009 05:11 pm (UTC)
It's relatively new; I think I first started hearing it within the last year.
Buddha Buckblaisepascal on July 6th, 2009 08:11 pm (UTC)
I'm a cismale myself, and I don't have a problem with that label. The "cis-" for "same side as" works fine for me. The main reason I'd have for not using the label is that I'd have to explain what it meant, and I'm not enough in the queer/trans activism camp to care that much.

But from a language stand-point, one issue is that while I'm relatively clear as what a cismale or cisfemale is, I'd be hard pressed to tell if a transmale fooled the attending midwife into believing they had a penis or a vagina. Obviously, a trans-{male,female} is "on the other side of" their birth-assigned genitalia, but is the male/female part of trans-{male/female} what they consider themselves, or what they were considered by others?
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on July 6th, 2009 08:19 pm (UTC)
The suffix indicates the gender with which the person identifies.
Shadow/Brookekengr on July 6th, 2009 09:23 pm (UTC)
Be glad we aren't spreaking French. In one of my unfinished stories, I had a trans character in high school French class. I got some help from a few French speakers as my clases are too many years in the past.

Seems that while French has both male and female gendered versions of the word "transexual", they can't sagree which goes with MtFs and which with FtMs. Oy.
Maggiesillymagpie on July 6th, 2009 09:50 pm (UTC)
Cisgendered? I don't know the term. My mind went to a strange NCIS place...
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on July 6th, 2009 11:41 pm (UTC)
It's a coined word (relatively recent) meaning "not transgendered".

I like NCIS.
Maggiesillymagpie on July 6th, 2009 11:43 pm (UTC)
What does the "cis" stand for?
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on July 7th, 2009 12:34 am (UTC)
From the linked essay,
'cisgendered', from 'cis-', "on the same side", + 'gender'; in contrast to 'trans-', "crossing over"; both from Latin, and both prefixes used in Chemistry with similar meanings.
Gretchenwren08 on July 7th, 2009 12:39 am (UTC)
I adore your icon... that's one of the best lines of the whole series.
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on July 7th, 2009 01:26 am (UTC)
I took it, with permission, from a post in the lmbujold community.
Barbrahirah on July 7th, 2009 04:35 am (UTC)
I don't care what you call me, just so long as you don't call me late for dinner. *rimshot*
zemhitchhiker on July 7th, 2009 12:16 pm (UTC)
i like 'cisgendered' because i associate 'cis-' with scientific terms, which gives it an extra coolness factor :) but even that apart, retronyms are perfectly respectable things.
une idee fixeideealisme on July 7th, 2009 01:19 pm (UTC)
I don't generally use the term "cisgendered" - I would simply say I am not trans. However I certainly wouldn't get my knickers in a knot about its use by others to describe me or anyone else.