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10 January 2009 @ 09:07 pm
Is it just me, or  
Do parts of "Time Won't Let Me" (the instrumental bit after the first chorus) sound similar to parts of "Raspberry Beret" (such as the couple of bars just as Prince is being handed his guitar)? Both links are to videos.

NOTE: I am not in any way implying plagiarism! I just can't hear one without also hearing the other in my head, and want to know if I'm completely off the mark.
The watcher over there: what?dafydd on January 11th, 2009 02:19 am (UTC)
Your LJ editor didn't actually include the links...
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 11th, 2009 02:48 am (UTC)
Ah, that would have been me. I just forgot to include them. Fixed now?
darrel jenkins iidjenk on January 11th, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
I think the keyboard fill over the top of the guitar kinda makes them sound alike...
Johnjohnpalmer on January 11th, 2009 05:06 am (UTC)
There's definitely a similarity... I don't know if I would have heard it if I hadn't been primed to listen for it, but knowing what to listen for, it was like "oh, that's what she's talking about!"
Kats: Yeshwildrider on January 11th, 2009 03:41 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think it's there, but you do have to listen for it. Like you said, not plagiarism, but a similarity in beat/note progression. :-)

I couldn't help but think, though, watching the TV clip from the Outsiders, that lipsynching "live" television is not so new... *g*

starcat_jewelstarcat_jewel on January 14th, 2009 01:11 am (UTC)
No shit. Where's the brass section? You can clearly hear at least 2 saxes and a trumpet on the song, but the sidemen aren't with the group.
Kats: Captain Jackwildrider on January 14th, 2009 02:06 am (UTC)
Not to mention the KETTLE which sounds suspiciously like a full drum kit...

seawaspseawasp on January 11th, 2009 06:09 pm (UTC)
There's some similarity. The one really odd parallel I encountered was hearing the Pet Shop Boys' tune "It's a Sin" and realizing it was virtually identical to "Eyes", the first-season OP for the anime "Yoroiden Samurai Troopers". As a musician I find the resemblance SO close that I suspect one of the Boys saw one of the early episodes.
darrel jenkins iidjenk on January 11th, 2009 11:14 pm (UTC)
Slightly related:

The first few times I heard "Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol


I swore the opening guitar line was identical to the opening to "Sounds of Silence" by S&G


a closer examination revealed that other than rhythm, they weren't that close at all.....

Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 12th, 2009 02:14 am (UTC)
I see hear what you mean. I would have heard "Sounds of Silence" there as well.
starcat_jewelstarcat_jewel on January 14th, 2009 01:15 am (UTC)
There are only so many chords, only so many harmonic structures, only so many euphonious melodic options. It's inevitable that occasionally things would be invented independently. My brain is particularly good at noticing those inadvertent similarities, like the choruses of "Air That I Breathe" by the Hollies and "Fernando" by ABBA...
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 14th, 2009 01:36 am (UTC)
*nods* "Melancholy Elephants," Spider Robinson, 1984.

I wasn't implying any kind of plagiarism, I just wondered if I was imagining a similarity that didn't objectively exist.