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10 January 2009 @ 06:19 pm
I'm rereading the Callahans books  
And I have a question that's a spoiler (a spoiler for books that are 15 years old? Well, might as well be polite), so if Jake was a regular at Lady Sally's, how is it he didn't know she and Mike were married, and why didn't he recognize Mary?
Barbrahirah on January 10th, 2009 11:24 pm (UTC)
Orbital mind control lasers?
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 10th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
No weirder than anything else that happens in those books.
Cymru Llewes: profilecymrullewes on January 10th, 2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
As far as I know, did Mike and Lady Sally actually point out they were married? And didn't Mary stay in the surveillance room most of the time? (I should reread Lady Slings the Booze. It's my favorite.)
aedificaaedifica on January 11th, 2009 04:52 am (UTC)
Agreed that Mary is presented as usually staying in the surveillance room. And, well, Mike is *always* at the bar during its open hours--depending on when Jake was at Sally's, he may never have even run into Mike there.
browngirl on January 10th, 2009 11:39 pm (UTC)
Jake's frequently changing heritage scrambled his memories?

(Honestly, it's like he's from a different culture every book.)
Annetxanne on January 10th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
zemhitchhiker on January 11th, 2009 09:37 am (UTC)
zing! :)
Annetxanne on January 10th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
Ummmm...he helped save the world in such a way that Lady Sally had to do her mindwipe mojo on him?
Tom Smithfilkertom on January 10th, 2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
Spider's a great storyteller, but not so good a writer?
guppiecatguppiecat on January 11th, 2009 12:28 am (UTC)
Hey! The Stardance books were wonderfully written.


Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 11th, 2009 01:21 am (UTC)
I'd say that's plausible. Despite his faults as a writer, though, he has had a huge influence on me and on how I approach the world.

An anecdote that might amuse you: I did a weekend round trip from Tennessee to Phoenix for a LepreCon (CopperCon? I forget) where Spider was a guest, because there was a concert scheduled with Joe Bethancourt (one of my favorite musicians), Spider (come to think of it, I may have been the person who introduced him to Bethancourt's music after the first time I saw him at a con and realized he could be Joe's long-lost twin!), Leslie Fish, and a couple of guys I'd never heard of, including one Tom Smith. *grin*
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Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 11th, 2009 02:21 am (UTC)
It was fabulous. Especially the part where Joe was introducing Spider, and said something like, "Hey! We look alike, except he's got a hat," and grabbed Spider's hat and put it on.

Spider said something like, "Fine, you meet the damn deadlines."

Joe blanched and very, very carefully returned the hat to Spider.
Tom Smithfilkertom on January 11th, 2009 02:39 pm (UTC)
CopperCon 1995. :)
zemhitchhiker on January 11th, 2009 09:39 am (UTC)
actually, i think he's a pretty damn good writer, in the sense of doing good things with the language. he's just not much of a continuist :)
siliconshaman on January 11th, 2009 12:04 am (UTC)
Because he's a man ... lets just say his mind was 'elsewhere' when he was visiting Lady Sally's!

Add to that that people can look very different with the right make-up and he wouldn't recognise Mary.
Adrian Turtleadrian_turtle on January 11th, 2009 02:01 am (UTC)
I thought it was because Mike and Sally had never let on, before. At the bar, Mike treats Sally like a regular customer. He's friendly to everybody, but he doesn't act like there's any presumption of intimacy. And in the public rooms of Sally's place, she could treat Mike like a customer. Really...how closely should a gentleman be watching how a lady like Sally interacts with her other customers?
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on January 11th, 2009 02:07 am (UTC)
Hm. Valid points.
Tiger Lily the Ginger Cattigerbright on January 11th, 2009 02:47 am (UTC)
Continuity is for wimps!

(The Lady Sally books were written after most of the Callahans stories.)