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06 May 2009 @ 05:45 pm
Dreamwidth Imports: Backup or Republishing?  
So I've created a DW account (janetmiles). I intend, at least for now, to use it as a backup for LJ, just in case LJ goes pfft at some unforeseeable point in the future. This means I was going to import my existing LJ posts to DW, and continue doing so periodically.

However, I've been seeing some indications that some people feel this is a misuse of their text, that they do not want their comments copied to another location. I can respect that.

Therefore, a poll. I'll be honest: I haven't quite decided how I'll interpret the data, whether I'll go with "majority rules" or "single vote against means I won't import any comments" or some other way of dealing with it.


Poll #1395952 Dreamwidth: Backup or Republishing?

Would you be upset if I copied your comments to my posts to my DW account?

Yes
1(1.3%)
No
71(94.7%)
It's not that simple, and I will explain in comments
3(4.0%)
 
 
 
seawasp: Kaosseawasp on May 6th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC)
If you're commenting on someone's LJ, IMCGO as that's THEIR LJ, not yours, you are implicitly handing the rights to display that work, at least in context, over to the person who owns the LJ. Copying it over to DW does not change that. The relationship between the post and the comments remains identical.

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Barbrahirah on May 8th, 2009 04:39 am (UTC)
Yes. That.
Killer of Sacred Cowsgriffen on May 6th, 2009 10:23 pm (UTC)
As long as you keep the posts in question under at least the same level of friends-lock as they were on LJ, I have no problem with it.
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on May 6th, 2009 10:30 pm (UTC)
I haven't even looked at the import tool, so I don't know how to do that, but I'll certainly keep in mind that things should be no more open on DW than they are here.
Surrendering to the mysteryjenett on May 7th, 2009 12:06 am (UTC)
The import tool respects it - if it was private, it stays private. If it was locked, it stays locked. If it was locked to a custom filter, you can import the filters or not.

(I wiped them out, and am adjusting the filtering accordingly: I'm making locked things that were more protected solely for my benefit (writing posts, mostly, as long as there's nothing terribly revealing in the comments, and there usually isn't) and otherwise locking to my 'trust' filter there which is tighter than the equivalent filters here in every case.
piranha @ dreamwidth: dreamwidthpir_anha on May 6th, 2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Dreamwidth Imports: Backup or Republishing?
you can import your entire LJ as private by setting your DW security level to private before the import, so nobody but you can see the comments. that circumvents the whole argument as to whether it is republishing, since you're not publishing anything.


Jim Hetleyjhetley on May 6th, 2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
I backed up everything over there. Since I don't do locked entries, everything on my posts here is public. If you then post a comment on my journal, that's still *my* journal . . .

(as Seawasp said)
You're out of adventures :(claire on May 7th, 2009 12:13 am (UTC)
I don't know. I don't think I mind you having my comments there.
Jezebelkightp on May 7th, 2009 12:30 am (UTC)
I may be peculiar, but as far as I'm concerned when I comment in someone else's journal, I've released my words into the wild to go where they will. Maybe it's my Usenet background, or my utter lack of any real sense of Internet privacy. But if you need permission, you've got mine.
glinda_wglinda_w on May 7th, 2009 01:19 am (UTC)
Exactly that. Once I post a comment to someone else's journal, I no longer have any control over what happens to it; end of story.

(Heh. I haven't backed up to DW yet; too fibro-flareish and migrainey for a week or two now, and ghods know when I'll have the spoons... but I hadn't even thought about comments and the privacy thereof, because, dude, they've been *published* - even if it's on someone's locked post, that post could become unlocked...)
Terry Karneypecunium on May 7th, 2009 05:29 am (UTC)
Yep. It's a letter to the editor.
Adrian Turtleadrian_turtle on May 7th, 2009 12:59 am (UTC)
When I published comments to your LJ posts, I thought of it as "posting comments on Janet's journal," not "posting comments on LiveJournal." If you want to copy your posts to your DW account, it's fine for you to copy my comments with them. My intent was to participate in a (public or private, depending on the topic) conversation with you and your friends. I did not need the record of the conversation to be written in water.
Michaelcuriousangel on May 7th, 2009 02:53 am (UTC)
There's absolutely nothing that I've ever written in comments to your journal that I'd object to having as public knowledge (though I'd hesitate to explain a few things to my mom, or to my boss). However, having known you online for years and years (and in person for quite a while, too), I've come to recognize your discretion and judgment, and I trust you to make a good decision on anything like that.
une idee fixeideealisme on May 7th, 2009 11:57 am (UTC)
If the original entry were locked and its equivalent on dw weren't, then yes I would have a problem with that. Otherwise I don't mind.
Spark_in_darknesssparkindarkness on May 7th, 2009 12:31 pm (UTC)
I commented on your post. If the same post exists elsewhere you can guarantee that my comment will apply to that as well :)
The Djao'Mor'Terra Collectivefayanora on May 7th, 2009 01:26 pm (UTC)
Personally, while Dreamwidth is nice, Insanejournal gives you 100 icons on their free plan.
Janet Miles, CAP-OMjanetmiles on May 7th, 2009 03:47 pm (UTC)
That's kind of cool, especially for folks who use a lot of icons. Me, I have probably more than I need, except that I want one for "thoughtful" (as in full of thought, not as in considerate) and one with a lit candle.
The Djao'Mor'Terra Collectivefayanora on May 8th, 2009 03:01 am (UTC)
Well for you, 6 would probably cut it.

I can understand that, too. Some of the others in my head have their own LJs, and of those only one uses more than 6 icons on a regular basis. Lo uses only one icon 90% of the time. Alex is also very fond of his inverted pentagram and rarely uses anything else. Pi uses a few more, but his red eye icons are his favorite. It's Molly who uses all 15 of her icons (on Plus) and is probably the reason I have over 100 icons on this LJ and it isn't enough. :-D
TSJAFOtsjafo on May 7th, 2009 02:14 pm (UTC)
It would be an honor if you thought anything I've said is worth saving.
BorderCollie Bros: Squrrlbordercolliebrs on May 8th, 2009 08:29 pm (UTC)
Well that's just silly. Anybody can smell marks whereevar they are!